Curse

Wasted Days · Dec 30, 2008, 02:17 PM // 14:17

just an idea for a build as a bit of fun cos i was bored. it's probably crap but life goes on

W/R PvE

[skill]Auspicious Parry[/skill][skill]Symbolic strike[/skill][skill]Signet Of Strength[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Signet of Stamina[/skill][skill]Antidote Signet[/skill][skill]Tryptophan Signet[/skill][skill]sunspear rebirth signet[/skill]

Strength 12 + 1
Tatics 12 + 1 + 1

Pros: Requires no energy. Should be able to do 70 (+5) damage every 2 seconds assuming enemy attacks within 2 second recharge (give or take). Can remove conditions from self. Blocks some attacks. Snare

Cons: no skills bar signets. no conditions or kds. requires enemy to strike you for quick adrenaline gain. I'm sure you can find more

Tyla · Dec 30, 2008, 02:31 PM // 14:31

It needs some damage. Waiting every 4 hits means you deal like 4 damage, and that means you're dealing more damage when you're autoattacking (using a normal skill bar) without using up your entire skill bar.

Zodiak · Dec 30, 2008, 02:52 PM // 14:52

You could go with:

W/D

13 (11+1+1)Tactics
12 Scythe Mastery
7 (6+1) Strength
2 Wind Prayers

[auspicious parry][symbolic strike][Signet of Pious Restraint][Dolyak Signet][Healing Signet][Tryptophan Signet][signet of stamina][sunspear rebirth]

As you do up to 3 times the damage with Symbolic Strike using a scythe

Wasted Days · Dec 30, 2008, 03:17 PM // 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyla

It needs some damage. Waiting every 4 hits means you deal like 4 damage, and that means you're dealing more damage when you're autoattacking (using a normal skill bar) without using up your entire skill bar.

auspicious parry is there to help you get to 4 strikes quickly, therefore you'd only need the initial hit + an enemy to strike you to get 4 adrenaline to fire of symbolic, which in turn would allow you to use AP again (after recharge) and hopefully, with quick attacking enemies, a cycle is formed.

the sycthe idea sounds good, but wouldn't it just be scythe damage + 70 as opposed to (scythe damage + 12) x 6. Therefore higher damage, but not 3x higher

Zodiak · Dec 30, 2008, 03:30 PM // 15:30

"As you do up to 3 times the damage with Symbolic Strike using a scythe "

"the sycthe idea sounds good, but wouldn't it just be scythe damage + 70 as opposed to (scythe damage + 12) x 6. Therefore higher damage, but not 3x higher "

You are aware that a sword hits a single foe and a scythe hits up to 3 right? Using an attack skill with a particular weapon causes that attack skill's damage to get applied to the weapon's range of hits. up to 3 times the damage of a single hitting weapon and therefor also potentially building up adrenaline 3 times faster. In which case, there may be use for a better elite then Auspicious Parry.

Zodiak · Dec 30, 2008, 03:41 PM // 15:41

This may be a better option yet. It has an IAS and increases damage, increases adrenaline, higher STR and penetration.

12 (10+1+1) Strength
12 Scythe Mastery
9 (8+1) Tactics
2 Wind Prayers

[battle rage][symbolic strike][signet of pious restraint][dolyak signet][healing signet][tryptophan signet][signet of stamina][sunspear rebirth]

Wasted Days · Dec 30, 2008, 03:50 PM // 15:50

my bad

[edit] was gonna suggest battle rage instead but you got there before me

so, by my calculations it would take 2 hits on at least 2 enemies to get adrenaline for rage but then should be enough to active symbolic every turn (working on the principle that symbolic strike hits at least 2 enemies to gain 4 adrenaline)

Picuso · Dec 30, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zodiak

This may be a better option yet. It has an IMS and increases damage, increases adrenaline, higher STR and penetration.

fix'd

I would change [[Dolyak Signet] and [[Signet Of Stamina]. If you need signets, at least take some useful ones...

Wasted Days · Dec 30, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

there aren't many more signets to choose from. i'd take signet of strenght over those two, but the other options are [skill]signet of mystic speed[/skill] (pointless as build has no enchantments[/skill], [skill]Signet of pious light[/skill] (another attribute line), [skill]resurrection signet[/skill] (in some respects could be useful, [skill]lightbringer signet[/skill] (only useful near abbadon servant) or [skill]signet of infection[/skill] (again useless)

Skyy High · Dec 30, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43

[skill]Signet of Strength[/skill]. Not great, but usable.

[edit]Aaaaand, you already mentioned that. Ah well, vote for that from me then.

Picuso · Dec 30, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

[[Signet of Strength], [[Signet of Disenchantment], [[Signet of Malice], [[Antidote Signet], ,[[Remedy Signet], [[Signet of Toxic Shock], [[Signet of Distraction], [[Signet of Shadows], [[Purge Signet]... Some useful Signets.

You can use:
12+1+1 Weapon Mastery (12 if you are using Scythe)
8+1 or 9+1 Strength
and you will be able to split 9 or 10 in Deadly Arts, Wind Prayers, Domination Magic, w/e.

You don't need tactics if you aren't using any Tactics Skill (Strength Shields FTW)

EDIT: You can even use [[Bane Signet] or [[Signet Of Rage] 'for the lulz'

Vesio · Dec 30, 2008, 11:52 PM // 23:52

if you want to think REALLY out of the box theres a bunch of fun mesmer signets that you can use. Interupts, hex removal, enchantment removal, skill rechargers, damage. if you want you could recharge them faster with a mantra too. You'd lose the scythe, but hey you'd get style points.

edit: i evidently missed the mesmer signets in picuso's post (signet of disruption and signet of distraction) they are two of them but theres lots more.

Wasted Days · Dec 31, 2008, 12:02 AM // 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picuso

[[Signet of Strength], [[Signet of Disenchantment], [[Signet of Malice], [[Antidote Signet], ,[[Remedy Signet], [[Signet of Toxic Shock], [[Signet of Distraction], [[Signet of Shadows], [[Purge Signet]... Some useful Signets.

You can use:
12+1+1 Weapon Mastery (12 if you are using Scythe)
8+1 or 9+1 Strength
and you will be able to split 9 or 10 in Deadly Arts, Wind Prayers, Domination Magic, w/e.

You don't need tactics if you aren't using any Tactics Skill (Strength Shields FTW)

EDIT: You can even use [[Bane Signet] or [[Signet Of Rage] 'for the lulz'

true, but the suggestion of using dervish secondary for quick adrenaline gain and hitting up to 3 enemies for +70 probably outweighs the benefits of those signets (given recharge times) and only hitting 1 enemy per time.

Picuso · Dec 31, 2008, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Well... For W/D:

[optional][Symbolic Strike][Signet of [email protected]][Signet of Pious [email protected]][Signet of Pious [email protected]][Signet of Mystic [email protected]][Tryptophan Signet][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

You can drop Earth Prayers @3 if you want to use Wind Prayers @9.

[[Signet of Mystic Speed] and [[Signet of Pious Restraint] can be very useful if you have Hybrid monks with you, but you need to be careful about which enchantment are you going to lose...

A Leprechaun · Jan 01, 2009, 07:25 PM // 19:25

[cleave][dismember][symbolic strike][flail][enraging charge][healing signet][antidote signet][sunspear rebirth signet]

3 signets = +36 damage for 4 adrenaline
You at least get a half decent build.

~A Leprechaun~